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EnableMePlz ([personal profile] enablemeplz) wrote2022-06-11 09:08 pm

June EMP Meme

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meme goes up on the Second Saturday of every month

FOR GAME ADS:

Put an ad up with the characters / crew / pairings / fetish you want for your game under the correct game header. This meme is primarily going to be focused on DWRP games but IJ and LJ games are allowed.

PLEASE NOTE A RULE CHANGE HERE. ABSOLUTELY NO obnoxious coding (no font size > size 4 or 3 "big" tags, no oversized banners (they must be 250px in height or less), no blinking text, no obnoxious table html that doesn't collapse easily, no sparklies, no large pictures). Use all the colors you like, but please remember 3 "big" tags is the limit and that's only for headers or title text rather than for all the text in an ad.

FOR GAME QUESTIONS:

RPers interested in a game can create a header for the game and ask questions about that game that aren't easy to find on faqs, such as the actual pace vs. what's listed/what kind of plots are run/if the game leans more towards plotty or slice of life/if a game leans more towards network or logs, etc. Both anon questions and anon answers are welcome in this section just like in the rest of the meme.

This thread is not for speaking about wank or drama in a game. There are anoncomms that exist for that. This thread is specifically for general questions about a game that rpers want to get perspective on from players already in the game. Answers can be slightly negative (such as saying app response is slow or that the plots are repetitive or similar things) but this should at least be worded politely. Unnecessary vitriol, any mention of personal drama or wank, or mod teams/individual mods/players being singled out, will be either frozen or screened (based on what seems right based on the content).

FOR CHARACTER ADS:

Put up an ad about the characters you are offering. For PSL ads, there is a separate subthread but for character ads for games, post directly to the meme post. Others will comment to you with the games/casts they want you to join.

There is a "Find a Castmate" section, where you can talk about a cast you play in at a game, and try to lure people to join it. Not all games post to the meme or have a "wanted" section, so players that want to tempt people to their cast on their own can use this section for it. Please format this the same as the PSL section, where you post your character's canons in your subject. For the actual text of the ad you must use the "Find a Castmate" form provided at the bottom of this post so that these ads don't get huge. When listing who's currently in a cast, please do this in sentence form (with commas) rather than in list form.

There is a "Find Crosscanon" section, where you can talk about a character you play and and desired crosscanon for that character. Please make sure this is not too generalized a search, because just wanting general crosscanon can be accomplished with the other sections of the meme. This is for specific characters or character types you're looking for. In the subject, please list the "Looking for [canon you're looking for]" rather than your character's canon. If looking for a character type, list the character type in as few words as possible. Do not make the subject huge or I'll screen your comment. For the actual text of the ad you must use the "Find Crosscanon" form provided at the bottom of this post so that these ads don't get huge. This section is only for game crosscanon as in the psl section people can list their preferences.

Examples of crosscanon you can search for: You play The Flash from DC Comics and your dream CR is fellow speedster Quicksilver from Marvel. Or you might play a witch and want cr with other witches in general. Or maybe you play a good character messed up by evil parents and want to play against a villain character you know has evil parents, because you know it'd lead to some interesting negative CR.

ABSOLUTELY NO obnoxious coding, with the same rules as the Game Ads Section above.

If you're recommending a game to someone, try to match your suggestion to their needs. It's okay if part of your game rec is copy-pasted (such as what the game's about), but at least some part of the rec must be personalized to their ad. Try not to recommend the same game to every single ad, either. Ad spam that isn't individualized in some way will also be frozen or screened. Keep in mind this needs to be more specific than "this game has easy AC like you're asking for but meets none of your other requirements." Make sure you're advertising games that might click with that specific character, where a few elements fit what they're looking for. You should be thinking about the story reasons of how the character might click with the game.

IN GENERAL:

Don't be a dick. This isn't one of the anoncomms, so any snide comments or unnecessary commentary on the RP plans of others will be frozen or screened.

MOD CONTACT:

If there's trouble, tell me HERE, please!

RESOURCES:

[plurk.com profile] enablemeplz - The plurk for Enable Me Plz. Follow for monthly, replurkable EMP reminders
DWRP Masterlist - A regularly updated basic list of public DWRP games.
[community profile] dedoralive - A more detailed listing of DWRP Games.

GAME/AD LINKS:

General Game/Dressing Room Ads Link
- New Games
- Small Games
- Medium/Large Games
- Museboxes/Memes/Dressing Rooms/Misc.
- Game Questions
- Game Start Discussions/Questions

PSL Offerings
Find a Castmate
Find Crosscanon

Latest Page

Textbox for Character Ads (Optional):



Textbox for "Find a Castmate" Ads (Required):



For "Find Crosscanon" Ads (Required):



Important note: IP logging has turned on due to multiple instances past and present of problem players trying to return to the dwrp community via emp after being banned other places, so I'll be IP logging from now on, and will compare notes with the rpa and wg mods (as well as game mods) where appropriate if it seems like someone that has been mass banned. I will not pay attention to IPs otherwise. I don't care what people like playing or who's who. So please feel comfortable to keep doing your thing, anon or otherwise. The knowledge will only be used for really egregious problem cases.

(Anonymous) 2022-06-12 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Honestly I think there's some misunderstanding here about the reasons people choose not to interact with certain other players/why some mods refuse certain people access to their game. In my experience in DWRP, the vast majority of the time, when this kind of thing happens it's because an individual has personally had bad experiences with the person they're trying to avoid, and knows from past experience that they don't enjoy playing with them (or modding for them).

DWRP is smaller now than it used to be, but it's not all one contiguous community that everyone knows what's going on in. It's not too hard for people who have found themselves alienated from one social circle due to bad behavior to find a foothold elsewhere to try again, unless the bad behavior is real nightmare shit. If there really are people out there who can't get into any game and are shunned by everyone in DWRP, I sure haven't heard of them.

I understand the appeal of the idea of a game where people who have acted badly can have a second chance to prove they've changed, I don't think this is really... like... generally those people are already doing that, just in different games and social spheres from the individual people they've hurt. Nobody is out here religiously consulting lists of total strangers to avoid based on hearsay from other strangers. Or at least nobody I know is!

This just sounds like you'd be deterring anyone who's experiencing harassment by someone else in RP from apping to your game because of the knowledge that by playing there, they'd be making themselves a target for their harassers to app in too, knowing their victim would have to either drop or deal with being encouraged to make nice with them.
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[personal profile] everland_mods 2022-06-13 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you for the response!

I edited a lot of what I had intended to say here, so I appologize if the resultant response is incomplete. The short (and less self-righteous) version is this:

I know people who have been chased out of new games or not given a chance because their names are on something like WG, or because of something somewhat problematic years ago that they have since realized is problematic and have stopped doing. I know that there are a lot of games out there, and that the community is wide and diverse. But I also know that I have friends who have confided in me that they have anxiety apping new games because they are afraid the mods will judge them based on WG or other second and third hand accounts. If those players can app to a game I run with less anxiety, and prove themselves there that they are not what people say they are, or even not who they used to be... then hopefully they can have less anxiety, and less cause for anxiety, in other games.

I also do not think that a lot of the people with this anxiety are people who have actually hurt anyone with their play. I think that anyone actively malicious will prove themselves out before they get terribly far. Not just in my game, but in any game. But people get reputations in this hobby based on the ship they like (not a shipper myself so that just seems... odd) or daring to be open about their real life struggles online. In some cases it is because they have played a child of a gender not their own and some people got upset about it. I am not looking to shelter people who actively have a will to do harm. We will have strike and ban system in place. But that will be based on actions undertaken while in this game, not based on something heard third hand five years go.

I hope that clarifies my intent, if nothing else.

As to active abusers, someone else had brought that up, and I admit I had not considered that. I had not thought about people who hadn't changed apping specifically to harass or bully someone else. While I can as a mod step in if they do something while in the game, you and the other poster are correct that it could cause problems before it gets to that point. And I don't want someone to be hurt at all. So I do have to consider that and try to figure out the best way to proceed.

Thank you for giving me something to think about, something I do want to resolve before I open this (or any game) to the public. I do want to make any game I run a safe space, and I need to consider that from all angles. Thank you.

(Anonymous) 2022-06-13 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
I'm glad you're taking that into consideration.

Speaking as someone who has in the past been the target of unjustified wankgate smears: when I was at my most anxious about that, a scenario where mods were pressuring other people to tag with me would definitely not have made me less anxious. The opposite, if anything.

I can tell you have good intentions but I really don't think this approach would solve the problems you're bringing up here, and making it front and center in terms of your goals for your game seems like a bad idea if you're aiming to get co-mods on board- especially coupled with the reluctance to provide information about the setting and game structure. I think it might be worth approaching this subject with that same level of caution: you could try instead starting from the premise that you want to run a game where you try to make sure people who have felt ostracised will feel welcome, and discussing with co-mods what the best way to make that happen would be.
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[personal profile] everland_mods 2022-06-13 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, my goal is to try and make people feel more comfortable and safe. Not less. I wouldn't want to force anyone into a thread with someone else. That won't help anyone. Encourage, yes. Force, no.

I can see what you are saying. And taking it in tandem with other advice, I think I am going to step back for a while and reaccess. I have been given a lot to think about and when/if I run a game - this game or others - I want them to be places where people feel safe and have fun. It seems like my approach to that was skewed with this attempt, so I need to figure out how to take the very legitimate concerns that have been voiced here into account to improve the situation so that all involved can have the best possible time.

(Anonymous) 2022-06-13 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
If you want to create a small game where your nervous friends can play and thrive, why not open up a private game for just them? It would be small enough to manage, they wouldn't have to worry about applications, and you'd be able to treat it more like an in-person RP experience. Invite your friends into your digital basement and treat them to some pizza.
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[personal profile] everland_mods 2022-06-13 01:46 am (UTC)(link)
I have considered that idea, and may wind up doing that short term at least. I think Everland is perhaps too expansive an idea for that, but I do have other things on the back burner that may work. Thank you!

(Anonymous) 2022-06-14 05:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't understand that you are all about protecting yourself and others who have made people uncomfortable so they can have a "safe space" and yet discourage opt outs and blame those that would rather have them for not talking it out with those that have already hurt them.

Doesn't seem like a safe space or a game but private sandbox and maybe it should stay that way.
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[personal profile] everland_mods 2022-06-16 12:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I appologize that I did not reply sooner, for some reason it seems that not all the replies are making it to my inbox. I am not sure why, but I do appologize, and thank you for taking the time to respond.

To clarify, I have no intention of placing or assigning blame to anyone. While I say encourage, that does not come with a balancing negative on the other side of the scale. There will be no punishment, or shaming, or any such negative actions taken with regards to people who do chose to opt out.

Other people have suggested it being a private sandbox and I am considering that, but I still want to think through and fix a lot of the things that have been brought up here before anything else.

My goal was originally for anyone who wanted to play to have a safe space. I had not foreseen the nature of the difficulties involved in that. I have been made aware of more now and am trying to come up with answers for the valid concerns posed.

And I thank you for raising them. And for taking the time to respond to me. I very much appreciate it. Thank you.

(Anonymous) 2022-06-16 04:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Good intentions or not, you made it clear that opting out would be looked down on as this was meant to be second chances and automatically opting out would look bad and then insinuated that those that would rather opt out hadn't tried talking with their bullies enough. Whatever your intent its been made pretty clear who would be favored in this game.
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[personal profile] everland_mods 2022-06-22 07:15 am (UTC)(link)
I appologize that this took me longer to come back to than I expected. These past few days have been a lot, irl.

I am also sorry if that is the way it seems, and fixing that impression is one thing I very much will have to work on if and when I go forward with a game in the future. I do not want to make anyone feel looked down upon or attacked if they do not offer second chances. I will have to figure out how to handle all of this, and it will be much of what I am thinking about with regards to this game. Thank you.