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June EMP Meme
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All the spoils
Quotes are useful!
Painted Renoir:
Right? Clea comes across as emotionless in the game to the point some people see her as a psychopath but I really don't get that at all? She seems to be reacting to the trauma of growing up in her family - and the murder of her brother. Because somebody set that fire.
I really shouldn't have looked up people's reactions to Clea (or the endings). Because yeah, hard agree. Given how Francois and a few of the others talk about past Clea, it's pretty clear that her current state is a result of her own grief. (I also think that if Clea were an older brother, she'd be received differently. How dare a woman be so uncaring!) She strikes me as being like the person who seems emotionless at a funeral because she planned it, she's working out how to pay the funeral home, running through what she's going to say to the lawyers so they can figure out how to pay the mortgage/not be homeless, etc. She has no time to be emotional. Plus it plays into the family dynamics: Verso is Aline's favorite and it's implied Alicia is Renoir's (even if she doesn't see it). So that combined with 'the oldest is fine/can take care of herself' has taught Clea that nobody cares how she feels so why bother? (Which is probably another reason P!Clea and Simon hurt so much.)
Also pretty clearly her own unhealthy obsession is that if she brings whomever did this to justice, then they'll all be safe and bad things won't happen again. She doesn't want Renoir back because she wants her dad back; she wants revenge/justice.
Which would lead to some desire to see if they are capable of growing beyond how they were created. Art can take on a life of its own beyond the desire of the artist, right? I think that would apply to Verso a hell of a lot. Renoir too simply by association with her father. So imagine her disappointment when the fake!version of Papa is actually stuck.
I feel like her feelings are complicated. I tend to see it as she dislikes Lumiere because this Canvas is implied to be where she and Verso chilled as kids, and she helped him make it. She doesn't like Lumiere and is on board with destroying it because it doesn't belong there. Imagine you made a treehouse with your brother and then your parents took it over and redecorated it. There definitely might be some testing to see how much of their own selves the Painted versions are, and I wouldn't be surprised if painted Renoir's lack of breaking out of his programming is what leads Clea in part to be so cavalier about the lives/experiences of the painted people, not realizing it's just Renoirs being obsessed with Alines and not necessarily a reflection on all the painted people. (Painted Alicia sure has agency.)
I also think that's why she stays away from Francois and the Gestrals; she knows her resolve would waver if she spent time with Franfran and then helped kill him.
It's complicated.
It IS. I love the idea of painted Renoir respecting Clea giving them the choice. Renoir's own 'cruelty to be kindness' used against him, essentially. Like ope, turns out your kids end up like you. Oops.
Real Renny
She deserves it after trying to hold everyone together for so long and not getting noticed in return, honestly. Because you make a wonderful point about how Aline and Renoir disrespected the art of their own dead son. And given how deeply Clea connects to art and perfection and all that? Yeah. She deserves to speak her mind.
Exactly. "Oh, we'll just wallow and Clea will take care of everything! :D Oh great, the manor is still here for us and everything is still functional! Now that we're Better, we can be a family together." Clea like, peace out. And again, she helped Verso with that Canvas, so she knows exactly what went into it and that's why she finds it so revolting. That really should have been her own private memory with Verso, but Aline/Alicia/Renoir wouldn't let it be. Why would they be any different with her own works? And God forbid something happens to her: The idea of them doing to her what they did to Verso is revolting enough for her to want to get far, far away. Maybe going so far as to burn her own Canvases/works if she can't take them with her.
Given Aline is constantly telling Renoir to go away and do something else, I'd think it's entirely possible for him to leave voluntarily. Like... he's only imprisoned so long as he remains inside the canvas? Which connects with the above paragraph in such a horrible way. But I'm game for either approach with the monolith in informing Clea what she'd want to do in Verso's ending.
Oooor... to be super twisting the knife, Renoir convinces her it's one when it's the other...remember: It's manipulation all the way down. :D
ANYWAY:
Yeah, we can start with Painted! I do prefer one at a time; E33 is already mind bending enough, not gonna lie. (In like the best way hence being so obsessed.)
Clea killing everyone or something else? The death would be fun because we can bookend E33 running into Renoir: E0 just running into someone who wrecks their shit completely that Verso and Alicia completely shut down. I forget exactly how it went down, but it's implied that Clea took the place of her painted self, so extra ouch there. Surprise! Death! :D And Clea proving her point by bringing back select Expeditioners just to rub salt in the wound because angy.
So angy.
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spoilers.
Yeah! Clea masqueraded as her Painted Self - and it was convincing enough [ie traumatic] that Renoir later told Verso that Julie and Search and Rescue were Clea's creations. In order to convince his son to do what needed to be done. Manipulating him, as you do for your family. So healthy. =)
But that begs the question - when did they notice something was off? Because reading off your interpretation, I could see it being when she has to engage in deeper conversation? Or just her trying to steer them away from the monolith. Which works well because I think Verso said they first encountered her at the monolith?
But yes! I'm totally up for E0 running into her. I have an open post if that sounds good?
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Still spoiled under here
As you do. Very healthy, great decisions! Clea like oh yeah just blame me for all your problems TYPICAL.
I would agree that her trying to steer them away from the Monolith might be the first signs of cracking, especially if the painted versions aren't the type to deviate from the plan/object/express their own agency. Like why is Clea so uncompromising all of a sudden? Or such a worrywart? Which also might reveal cracks of the real Clea because her family not listening to her is a trigger in a way it wouldn't be for painted!Clea - hints of the anger peeking out as they get closer and she realizes she can't stop this without drastic measures. And the deeper conversation might also do it just because in real Clea's experience, her family doesn't DO that with her anymore. They don't talk to her. :| Not since Verso died. :| :| Which might be why she stays and tries persuasion: It's her own temptation. But alas.
I can see Renoir suspecting it happened before the Monolith but letting Verso and Alicia believe it happened during - another one of his 'kind' lies. Especially to prevent the other kids from beating themselves up for not noticing.
Here?
Do you want to start or me?
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spoilers.
I can totally see Renoir doing the same thing. Also your comment about a deeper conversation setting her off sounds interesting. Painted Renoir does show affection at least to Alicia. So it's possible to extrapolate from that he might also show it in a different form to Painted Clea. But it's likely not the kind of affection the Real Clea would appreciate. So yes. Give Clea some of that awful insight into why her mother is staying in the canvas. It'll be fine.
And yes, that's the one! Do you mind starting if possible? I've got some tags to catch up on now I've finished dinner.
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Spoiling
Renoir tell the truth challenge level: Impossible. I'd believe he's affectionate/holds some affection: I think they do all love each other in their own fucked up ways, which would include Clea. And Aline clearly preserves Renoir's love for/obsession with his family in his painted self. But yeah, it makes real Clea's skin crawl.
I threw something up for the night before the Monolith so Renoir can see something is off and then we can pull the rug out the next day. You know. For extra
painfun! If there's anything that doesn't fit, please let me know. I've only done one playthrough and she's a super new muse for me, so I'm still finding my sea legs and I might misremember things!no subject
spoilers.
I just saw it! It's wonderful and I can't wait to get started. I also agree that it's good to set it the night before - it allows us to get a bit of development going. Thank you for posting. I'll get to it soon as I'm able. :)