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Canonmate shenanigans I'd love to see:

- how Hank and Connor would handle the issues that would come up if they got romantically involved - the difference in perspective of a romantically experienced vs an inexperienced person, Hank with all his issues not always being a great main source of stability/comfort for a guy who is literally just learning how to be a person and might not have any other sources of emotional support in his life, all that fun stuff. Also lighter stuff like why their relationship might work and why they might be able to move past that, but generally exploring those things is something I've been interested in for a while. Also I'd love to see them dressing up in sexy shit and/or formalwear but that's just be a nice bonus.

- how Hank would bounce off Markus or North, maybe in either a situation where they have no choice but to work together or a post game situation where Hank's involved in solving android-related crimes/helping the android community with security/in charge of trying to build the android community's trust in the police

-Anything else y'all want to see? Platonic Hank & Connor stuff? Hank doing other stuff with any of the androids, any memes you think would be fun, whatever? Crosscanon funtimes? Come to me.

Hey there! I'm not super active with North, but I'm always up for weird "these people never met in canon, how would they even get along" stuff.

North's pretty suspicious of humans in general and really not fond of male humans for probably obvious reasons, so that's a thing that could be interesting.

That would be great! With these two it's like, IF they could ever start getting along I think they'd have fun but there's that big if that I've always wanted to play around with. Would you like for us to find some kind of meme for them or would you like to do something set in canon? Or if there's a fic or something you liked some details from we can always go with something like that.

Hi there!~ I don't have a Connor journal as of yet... but I have been toying with the idea of trying to RP him, and Hank X Connor is my total weakness >>;;; I would love to do something exploring their relationship post game, if you might be interested?

Also, what end game is your hank from? shamelessly I always end everything peacefully-- and durning the final scene when Hank and Connor hug outside the burger place? I always thought the zoom out was ambiguous enough that it could have been a kiss LOL

Or rather, it might be easy for Connor to misinterpret that's what Hank wanted and try to go for it LOL

Also, so much interesting stuff, like if in your cannon, you had connor sacrifice himself to save Hank when he was being shot at? I'm replaying just now so it's all in my brain LOL

If you might be interested, please feel welcome to comment back here or PM me! Taaaanks =)

That sounds wonderful I am absolutely interested. I'd take Hank from whatever end game works, and am totally willing to AU it so he makes it through a few of the bad endings, but I (like most people I think XD) drift toward the good end most of the time. It's just too tempting to go with the hug ending. And I love the idea of Connor thinking Hank wants to go in for a kiss at that point while Hank's maybe not ready for that yet, or not letting himself think about Connor that way, or not thinking Connor thinks about him that way - that would be so delightfully awkward.

Re: the sacrifice when Hank's getting shot at, it's such a shame that it damages your relationship with Hank because it's so good. A lot of the really good moments in the game are like that, so good but the consequences are too permanent. (I'm thinking of Hank's death scene in CyberLife tower when I say that, god that one gets me.) Although ones like the sacrifice thing would also make playing their relationship interesting because it might give Hank some confused and not entirely positive feelings for Connor, and then he'd have to reconcile that with his other definitely positive Connor feelings. So that could be fun.

I haven't played them being romantic yet so I can't say with total certainty but I think I'd usually play it like, aside from a couple moments of attraction that he wasn't really happy about Hank never consciously thought about Connor in a romantic way, so he'd need something to start him thinking about it - either a sudden thing like Connor going in for a kiss during the hug ending, or dressing up in something obviously meant to be sexy for some reason or a slower thing like for example Connor doing little things that read as romantic to Hank, either romantic gestures or domestic things that read to him as something maybe he and his wife used to do for each other.

He also might be suspicious about whether Connor really felt romantically for him or if Connor was just exploring all the new feelings on offer to him and just assuming he was attracted to Hank because they're so close. So that's something we could potentially play with, whether Connor was doing that or not and how they'd navigate it.

So what are your thoughts? Are there any aspects of their relationship or ways they might get together you'd like to play with?

I also like the 'good' ending, so no worries there =)

I know it makes Hank upset when Connor dies and just shows up the next day, but I usually play on easy, so it's easy enough to fix. I also imagine maybe Hank was mad because he was so upset that Connor died. Maybe mourned him. Maybe questioned his feelings for Connor in the relative safety of thinking he's gone. Then Connor is just there the next day and I feel like the anger maybe comes from THANKS FOR NOT LETTING ME KNOW YOU'RE ALIVE ASSHOLE B(

Or something. Perhaps something we could play around with =3 I am all for confused and conflicting feelings also >:3

I've only done some personal writing so I've not explored them too much, but damn, the game gives one so much to work with!

HM. I really like the idea of Connor going in to kiss Hank because he thought that's what was happening LOL Maybe that, coupled with a few other things to kinda nudge Hank thinking in that direction?

Also I have this plot bunny: post game Detroit is an android state, and even if you end peacefully, obviously some humans are still gonna be assholes and there will probably be tension between humans who are determined to get thier hate on.

So maybe somehow Hank has to leave Detroit for... something. And gets stuck outside the state (I usually stick him in New York for this plot because it's right across lake eerie) and when he doesn't get back on time, Connor starts to worry because at this point there's check points set up, making sure people be human, probably peeps out attacking android sympathisers because all those assholes aren't gonna suddenly stop being assholes.

And because it would be super unsafe for Connor to leave Detroit as is, he gets a whole bunch of advanced upgrades, and incidentally the most advanced models, other than him, are child androids and, I imagine, sex androids (they can probably simulate bodily fluids, for example?) and the children androids have things like body heat and such

So in order to more safely get through the check points to go look for Hank, Connor gets all these upgrades to help him pass for human. I imagine that would include new senses (sex androids seem able to smell) and, if Connor had not had ah... 'realistic hardware' in PLACES (which is debatable either way) he would totally have it now. What if the check points required a strip search? I think maybe the tests would fluctuate because some folk would still be really paranoid

So maybe the kiss at the burger place (as wonderfully awkward as that would be xD) and then something like the other plot following, if you dig it?

I imagine having a conversation about those upgrades (which I imagine Connor would be kinda nonchalant or casual about) might bring up some unusual trains of thought for Hank, maybe xD LOL

So thems are my thoughts =D Yours?~

Also I am gonna make a journal also I just got home from work and am SO TIRED, but I wanted to reply to this ASAP =)

My thoughts on the 'dying and coming back hurts your relationship with Hank' thing are that, Hank has a lot of experience - both professional and personal - with death. And he's big on things that he's used to, he's nostalgic for paper and old fashioned cars, he's pretty settled into that way of thinking and it's hard for him to break out of his ideas about what the world is, what it's always been. He's not very mentally flexible, especially when it comes to the idea of death. He's had a lot of deeply painful experience in coming to terms with the fact that people don't come back in real life like they do in fiction. There's no magic plot-device way out of dying, not for real people. So when he starts to get used to thinking of Connor as a person and then Connor does something so inhuman, so unnatural as seemingly coming back to life, it reminds him that Connor isn't what he thinks of as 'real'. More than that, he resents it. In his mind it's unfair to, say, other cops who've saved people from shootings, Connor dying in that particular situation and coming back, and the fact that it doesn't seem like as much of a sacrifice on Connor's part as it would be for a human could make Hank wonder, after it happened, how much of a meaningful gesture dying for him actually was.

So. If we want to play around with that we can, maybe with Connor dying later on (if there's a way to make him come back without CyberLife functioning) or something reminding Hank of past times it happened - it might complicate things a little, when they're working out how they feel about one another, but if we do end up wanting to interrupt their ability to figure their shit out that might end up being helpful to us.

Re: the plot I'm thinking... the president evacuating Detroit after she withdraws the troops does imply that there's going to be some sort of barrier between Detroit and the outside world for a while. Maybe Markus is invited to DC to negotiate all the androids-are-people laws that are going to have to get passed, and he figures the testimony of the police officer who started out hunting deviants down and then changed his mind might help his case, so he asks if Hank wants to come along. Hank's probably getting some pressure to evacuate and normally he'd resist and stick around just to be stubborn, but Markus is right that he could influence some people and Hank wants to actually try to help the deviants out, and the kiss with Connor made things pretty awkward so he wants some distance while he figures that shit out.

Would that be enough reason for Connor to come after him, things between them being awkward and wanting to set things right? Or should something go wrong where Connor feels like he has to rescue Hank, like on the way to DC Hank manages to get Markus away from some humans attacking him but gets caught himself, something like that, and the attackers figure, fuck it, good enough, and film something letting people know that they want markus to come back and exchange himself or something, and Connor maybe figures the best way to find out where Hank is being held and get inside is to pretend to be human? Talking about Connor's upgrades afterward might not quite get Hank thinking of him romantically (he'll mostly be like THIS IS SO WEIRD) but Connor being like 'oh btw i have a dick now' sure would be... a fact that he would have to figure out his feelings about knowing. XD

That makes so much sense dude! Along those lines, maybe at one point we can have them talk about it; I mean, later in the story Connor shows fear of death when Hank almost shoots him, so, that intense kind of balances out the 'nonhuman' feel of the way an android faces death usually... I'm also kind of fond of the idea of Connor perhaps letting Hank know that he did in fact not think of himself at all (which can be considered less human, but) because he was just thinking about keeping Hank safe (kinda more on the human side?) so like... mixed feels basically. Disregarding one's own safety completely CAN be a human behavior, if motivated by, well, FEELS.

I like the idea of him dying later on! Of course we would make up some way to bring him back, but for the most part maybe they both think that's impossible with cyberlife as is? Then, Hank can see Connor do something reckless to save him just like he's done every other damn time, regardless of personal risk.

I think it would be easier for Connor to rationally justify all those highly advanced upgrades if there was some element of danger involved, for sure. Not that Hank needs to be a damsel in distress, and Connor wouldn't think he couldn't handle it on his own... but gosh darn, he's just gotta do it for whatever reason O=)

All of this sounds so wonderful OMG~ I really enjoy the thought of markus and hank running into trouble via some jerk humans interfering with the diplomatic trip to DC. The Anti-Android peeps could film something or just detain them somehow. If there was nothing in the media, I imagine Connor still getting uneasy if Hank was out of contact and late from when he's supposed to return

or they could have been stopped on the way to DC, so it would be all over the news that markus is missing? and by extension hank also of course.

Since the states are rather separated in their affairs, I imagine that some states will be very pro android, while others, not so much. Politics in the US can be kind of... volatilite (**coughcoughcough**) so perhaps some states may even immediately begin to pass anti android laws and set up checks to make sure the people passing through are human

That way Connor needs to seem as human as possible in order to travel safely, and also, to pass among humans in general to make it easier to find Hank and Markus.

So later it would be reasonable to ask Connor how he managed to get past so much security (state borders etc) so quickly and without alerting a mod of angry humans, the short answer of which is 'upgrades' but we all know Connor is a bit detail orientated so his answer might be a little more... descriptive >_>;

How does that sound to ya?

And any thoughts on a place in the story you might like to start? I know the kiss scene may be rather short, but I think it could be super amusing to play out. If you wanna start somewhere else tho, I'm all for that too~

Tah-dah! No more Joker journal making me think of the weirdest crossover ever LOL

the realest crossover, hank moves out of gotham because the supervillains are too weird

But yeah that all made sense - honestly the idea that states would start passing laws immediately makes sense too, even if those anti-android laws were overturned by the government later, there probably would be places where people would jump on passing them while no one was sure what was going on.

I'd love for them to talk about Hank's feelings on death - although if Connor did cause his own death later on there would be some emotional consequences for Hank, even if he came back, so that's a thing that could happen.

Maybe when Hank got Markus away from the bad dudes Markus contacted Connor, because he knows Connor the secret agent murderbot can probably get Hank out quickly - or he knows at least that Connor would want to know because he and Hank are close. That way we don't have to write for Markus, we can just say he's safe somewhere.

But yeah that sounds good! The kiss scene sounds like a great place to start. Would your journal or mine be a good place to put this/who should do the starter?

Well that's fair, gotham isn't a great place to raise a kid either LOL

Yeah, I thought so =3 Just think of like... laws about marijuana use all over the US, it's vastly different by state as I understand it, and like, still kind of illegal overall? Laws are strange ^^;

Yay for emotional consequences >:3

Yup that all makes sense to me!

HM. Would it be alright if you did the starter? I am also completely open to taking a crack at it if you would rather that =3 Honestly I just wanna saturate by brain with game play rn LOL

Here we go! Let me know if there's anything different you wanted in the setting.

but yeah laws ARE strange, and it feels right that states/governors/whatever would pass laws and enforce them even if those laws weren't exactly legal XD At least for a while.

Booyah! And replied!

Right? Sometimes it seems like unjust laws get passed super fast, while fair laws take absolutely forever to get through the bureaucratic red tape. Humans make up weird rules about everything.

Yeah DX Humans are weird. Good thing androids are going to replace us all.

Tru facts indeed.

I can't man really. I see people get pissed off at the self checkout machines like "that thing took someone's job!" and it's like yes, the machine built itself, wrote a resume, and applied for the job.

Nope. a HUMAN decided using a machine is better than hiring more people. The check out machine is not even sentient how can it be its fault -_-

god, i'm a cashier and I know that feel. people saying that just annoys me at this point. like, i want to say to them, dude, they weren't going to hire enough people anyway, you're just making my life harder by bitching about it.

YUP exactly-- some human made the decision to put the self checkout there because they didn't want to take on any more employees, the self checkout literally has zero choice in the matter it's just an object, how can it be at fault -_-

I hope my tag was alright-- I'm sorry I tend to go on for so long, I'll try not to go on forever and ever ^^;; Introspective helps me get into character so ^^;; still, please don't feel like you gotta match my length or anything orz orz orz

Yeah it’s all good, as long as there’s a hook in the tag I enjoy reading a lot of narration so don’t feel like you have to restrain yourself on my account. As long as you don’t mind if I don’t match that we’re good :D

Edited 2019-03-10 15:34 (UTC)

Okay cool =D Yeah for sure just write however much your comfortable with! Your tags have been great thus far!! =D Poor, poor Hank LOL I am having so much fun~

Thanks! And yeah, poor Hank XD I love doing this to him

For realz. I had company over tonight which was oddly fun but also I've inwardly been like GO AWAY SO I CAN WRITE THINGS LOL So I am stoked to be able to sit down and work on this rn ^^

Also hey I wanted to mention that I really love your idea of Connor taking on some domestic type tasks as means of making things even blurrier. I feel like it's awesome because like... on one hand machines are very task orientated and in that way he could be inclined to keep busy via like... laundry or tidying up or something. On the other hand, it also kind of displays care for Hank and his living space, so it's like... where is the line?

Also can you imagine Connor walking Sumo for Hank because I find myself a bit enamored with the thought LOL

That's not exactly what I was thinking when I said domestic things that might make Hank think romantically about him, I was more thinking the little things people end up doing for each other when they live together like, texting the other person to ask if they want anything from the store, little ways of interacting with someone you see every day at home that are on their own maybe not romantic but which Hank might associate with the time he and his wife were together. But it does make sense that Connor might start to do chores and stuff, like, that he'd need some kind of goal to fill the hole no longer being directed by CyberLife might leave in his life. It would be interesting if Connor was doing things like that as a way to display care for Hank and his living space because I don't see Hank being a fan of that - I sort of see Hank feeling skeevy if Connor started doing chores for him, especially if Connor also feels romantic feelings for Hank at the same time. He'd feel like he was conning Connor (pun not intended) into being like, a domestic android and doing all his shit for him. And yeah I can absolutely see Connor walking Sumo, he can get Sumo back into shape. I feel like both Connor and Sumo would like that.

Ah, I see! I like your idea of domestic also let us also include such things >:3 I find myself kind of fond of the whole... dubious space between things being very sweet and yet potentially feeling a bit unbalanced, re: Hank feeling skeevy about Connor helping out around the house and such. I enjoy that it begs the question of what's acceptable and what's not, and where does it matter that he's an android, and when does it matter that he's alive, that kind of thing.

Because like. Would Hank still feel skeevy about Connor helping out if he was actually human? So much gray area man LOL

Hm. I wonder how Hank would react to coming home and the place is clean, there's food for him that Connor picked up (obviously just for him because Connor doesn't eat), and Sumo has been walked and brushed. Because people did use androids for that stuff, but it's not really about that for Connor? Not that he could easily define what it is about; so many interlacing factors.

Your Hank amuses the hell out of me BTW, he's SO spot on. 'All he had to do was not say that' XDDD OMG, I laughed so hard.

Yeah exactly that sounds like a lot of fun to play when it comes to them, because I don't think he'd mind so much if he had a human boyfriend who cleaned up after him. Or, it would take him longer to get annoyed by it, and then for slightly different reasons. And it'd be hard for him to think about it from Connor's point of view, especially since I feel like the kind of people Hank's probably usually gravitated toward romantically are probably a lot more casual about it than Connor might be.

And thank you XD Hank feeling awkward is fun.

They probably ask way fewer questions too holy shit connor >>; That's what you get when you interact with a highly advanced intelligence attempting to fully actualize emotions and stuff xD Have fun Hank!

IT IS FUN <3 I hope my driving is also decent **squint** Connor is a bit different than my other muses, plus the whole line of... what's human and what's mechanical, because like, there are some pretty damn meticulous humans in the world-- the behavior probably feels different coming from an android than a human. But then you gotta get into like... what makes a human very particular or observant or curious, vs what makes an android all of those things? I feel like Hank might need some weed to straighten all this out, I know I do xDDD LOL

Detroit: Become Human

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